Admittedly, he was right about the debauchery. But really, did he expect the other players to just sit on in awe whilst the match played out?
…. Actually, knowing Dove, he probably did.
Anyway, Brian, nice job. This is a good ending, I think. Lightening the tone a bit. Whether it was intentional or not, I think you handled it well by having things play out as they did. While Dove was being a prick, it was unclear whether he actually cheated, though heavily implied. I can’t imagine Dead Iron failed SHEERLY due to his influence, and while I admit I am unfamiliar with precise tournament rules, I imagine that things got out of hand a bit.
People are not shining, perfect beacons or dirty scum, Even the good guys fail as people, and the opposition may have a valid leg to stand on. While many could argue that this may just be coincidence, either way…
In a few tournaments you actually have to purchase your dice right there for use. This is primarily done for the express purpose of keeping people from cheating. However if you have suspect dice as in this case, then the person suspected of using them rants as Dove did the word is spread and Dove would be banned form every reputable establishment around. I do really wonder exactly what would happen if Dove became known as a cheater, or outlawed player. Also in this case you could bring in the whole santa angle as well, that could bring in a totally new dimension on punishment since he does figure into your storyline.
Dove has 2,305 followers on Twitter? Wait a minute… 2+3+0+5=8. 2,305 is also a four-digit number. 8×4=32. 32… Three and two… Three as in the number of players that were killed at the start of the final round, two as in Dove and Dallas being the only players left at the end… Dove and Dallas… D&D.
Oh my God. It’s all so obvious now.
Dove and Dallas will eventually meet to reconcile their differences, open up to one another, and engage in a torrid affair that will result in the creation of the next hit RPG, a product of both Dallas’s creative mind and Dove’s technical/tactical expertise.
Dallas and Dove. D&D. d20 Monkey’s next OTP. Search your hearts, you know it to be true.
Hold up, we can fix the math (with a few more steps!)
So, you dropped the 2 in the initial addition, so it’s really 10. 10 can be interpreted at 2 in binary, and 10-2 is 8. Okay, your math is now sound.
Damn, that took way less time than I thought it would.
Thank you for salvaging the future of d20 Monkey’s next OTP. Next time I’ll leave the madness math to people that aren’t sleep-deprived and half-drunk.
This is a nice point of the differences between the players. Dove lost, and decided to throw a hissy fit, insult the person who won, the GM, and try and make it out that it was his fault.
Dallas, in the comic before last, was happy to have one, not entirely thrilled she won with Dove’s dice, and took what he’d said to heart, thoroughly depressing her.
Sam’s trying to will Dove’s head to catch fire.
And these two lost, but they had fun, lost fair and square, and went off to chat and finish off the alcohol they’d probably had planned for specific moments that never came.
Sounds like Dove came straight out of a chicktract comic. Getting a little too attached to his characters. I try and keep mine alive but I’ve also got little attachment and if they die, they die.
Still loving the witch class so watching Dove get his just desserts for bad gaming etiquette gives me happy tingles. 😀
P.S. Only 2305 followers? That’s nothing compared to things like Wipeout Homophobia and Lizzy the Lezzy (she just hit a million followers on FB by the way) and those are also run by a single person or a handful of people.
Sam may have won the battle, but Dove may still win the war. If he has a lot of local followers and sets up a boycott of the store, things could get ugly for Sam, business-wise. That said, if Sam goes all in proclaiming far and wide that his store is a safe space, business might actually do better.
Keep in mind that sometimes “followers” specifically follow people they can’t stand because they want to see what they say next. So they can feel righteous anger.
As someone who *loves* that his local shops both have “sanctuary” rules in place, including having a couple beds in case people need them (cots, but they beat the streets while we were waiting on our approval for our new apt. a few years back, as new renters), I can confirm that people flock to stores that endeavor to take care of their own, especially various minorities, women, LGBT, and other people who feel marginalized in general life.
I’d *love* to see that be how this ends up going… bonus points of Dove winds up doing something stupid and getting arrested for his trouble.
I…I can’t tell who’s actually being MORE childish here, whether it’s Sam with his “take your ball and go home!” tactic, complete with temper tantrum, or Dove with his “I’m telling Twitter on you!” approach.
And while the game itself might be over, the event isn’t. The prize hasn’t been given out, and Dallas did note that the die she rolled at the end wasn’t hers – she might want (or even demand) to re-roll.
Now, if Dove had left and then started spreading his crap around and then gotten banned, it’d be another matter. As is, he’s still a guest of the Dragon’s Den, and hasn’t been a very good one – he’s insulted, attacked, or made accusations against not only the other players, but the host as well. Honestly, the fact that Sam simply told Dove to leave shows remarkable restraint, I think.
Now you’re just being pedantic for the sake of being pedantic.
When you are in a place of business, for whatever reasons, you follow the rules of whoever runs the place.
Dove has only just now left the building, and being a gaming shop, his toxic attitude is not conducive to a friendly atmosphere.
Dallas accidentally rolled Dove’s d20, and pointed it out with the most likely intention of saying that she would like to roll with her own d20 and not his. Dove then proceeded to explode under the assumption that she’s now accusing him of cheating when Dallas had made no intent to do so clear, and Dove has already been warned that any more OOC attacks on anyone would warrant immediate expulsion from the event and the store.
I disagree that either player is behaving childishly.
From Dove’s perspective, he has just been treated unfairly at – and given the boot from – an event which he paid good money to take part in, at the hands of the event organiser/referee, no less.
Public complaints about vendors and service providers are a legitimate way of either getting them to change their ways, or punishing them by hurting their bottom line if they don’t. (*)
That being the case, it’s IMO entirely appropriate for Dove to take to his Twitter feed to argue against the Dragon’s Den – at least, it is from where he stands.
For his part, from Sam’s perspective, Dove is a noxious presence in the Dragon’s Den: he’s known to be misogynist, homophobic, and racist.
Anyone alienated by that kind of behaviour (which would be the vast majority of women, LGBTQ, and non-white gamers, as well as white heteronormative men who sympathise with them) might well re-consider patronising the Dragon’s Den if it’s the sort of establishment that lets the Phillip Doves of the world openly voice their bigotry in its walls. Chances are there are more of them floating around than Doves and Dove sympathisers. (A reasonable conclusion, given the commentary on the Dungeon Run posts over the last two weeks.)
Dragon’s Den is not obliged to provide a soapbox to Dove, so apart from any social consideration Sam might have for having just been personally accused of colluding with Dallas et al to defeat Dove, giving Dove the boot is a rational decision.
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(*) There was a columnist in my newspaper who would publish complaints about businesses whose intervention often resulted in remedial action taken in favour of the complainant.
“From Dove’s perspective, he has just been treated unfairly at – and given the boot from – an event which he paid good money to take part in, at the hands of the event organiser/referee, no less.
Public complaints about vendors and service providers are a legitimate way of either getting them to change their ways, or punishing them by hurting their bottom line if they don’t.”
Except that Dove was warned by the referee that if he continued with his behavior, he would be ejected from the event. He was fairly warned, he ignored that warning, and the referee carried out the promised result.
When he was warned, and ejected for directly violating that warning, to then go and complain about the venue for being “treated unfairly” is completely childish; it is akin to throwing a temper tantrum because he didn’t get his way. He may not see it that way, but that doesn’t change what it is.
I wonder how many of Dove’s followers follow him because they find his ranting hilarious, how many just follow him to understand the “enemy” and how many actually are interested in what he has to say. And I also wonder how many are actually local enough to matter.
Don’t forget the ones that follow him because they get paid to. Dove seems like the kind of person who would actually pay people (or at least promise to pay people) to follow his Twitter.
I think Sam actually has enough evidence for a restraining order against Dove… He brings in strong arm thugs to the store on a regular basis (at one point leading to an assault case involving the police) so he does pose a threat to the safety of the patrons of the store. Can someone either back me up or refute me on the law on this.
Full disclosure: I’m not the most reliable source. I’ve never had to file a restraining order, and I’ve only ever looked it up once in the distant past.
Technically they’ve had the drinks since they were grouped into the same group, before Tamina dropped out. But they’ve been ‘off camera’ for a bit so they’ve probably been drowning their defeat in Martinis.
It was a couple of strips after Dove’s first appearance in Dungeon Run that I realised that I’d been hearing all his dialogue in Comic Book Guy’s voice….
Hey. Hey. Be nice to Comic Book Store Guy. He’s actually a decent guy and his elitism is more frustration with the fact that not everyone knows what they should about comics. Or that they don’t know the right things about comics. Either way…he’s at least nice enough to not view people as simple score cards.
hmm..you know, im hoping that dove DOES try to get some publicity out of it, and come to find out, (like some suspect) that sam has recorded EVERYTHING that happened at this event (including from his perspective) and INCLUDING all of Dove’s tirades at the table. especially when it counters his claims of ‘unfair treatment’ and ‘cronyism’ as well as Sam making good on his threat to have Dove barred from gaming in general, with video proof at his beck and call.
oh, and im also citing this as a former judge/battlemaster for Wizkids, i used to have folks complain about my venue because we had to be done by a certain time (because of weekly magic tournements and lan partys), to which i would remind my players that Mechwarrior didnt bring in anywhere near the sales magic did (30-45 bucks a week compared to 300-350 a NIGHT for magic) and if i was such a terrible judge, then why was it that they had to use MY venue to win the LE figures that they kept losing out on at every other venue. they realized then that id caught on to their plan – which is why i saw ONLY the same four players weekly, 6 if they brought family members. and then they expected me to hand over figures that OTHER folks had won to them for ‘safekeeping’
needless to say, my name got smeared for being an ‘unfair’ judge. to which i responded by discussing releasing video kept by the host venue, very quickly those lobbying claims against me, recanted saying that they were being pressured by ‘outside sources’ they refused to name.
oh, and i forgot to mention that it was ONLY my MW crew that had any problems with how i ran events, my Heroclix group loved me, never had a problem with me, and on a couple of occasions even ran the event when i couldnt make it, settling on rules disputes with dice rolls, and saving round results for me when i came in to pick them up for entry. when i gave up events for my new job at the time, they were sorry to see me go, and my host asked if i was interesting in becoming his magic judge in time. so obviously i wasnt doing that bad if the store wanted me to judge his primary breadwinner.
Dove, get some fucking perspective man. 2305 followers doesn’t make you a god who gets to decide what succeeds and what fails, it makes you a spectacle followed but a couple of trainwreck enthusiasts who are hoping to see you make a public spectacle of yourself when you inevitably THINK you are a god owed life and servitude and realize you aren’t.
2,306 people do not make a Legion. Heck, it’s barely half the size of a proper Legion. And when you account for the “quality” of the “troops” Dove could possibly muster, (I doubt everyone who follows him agree with his rhetoric as I know a lot of folks who follow idiots on social media for laughs), he wouldn’t even have a Cohort.
And let’s not forget that most of Dove’s cohort would be more of the ‘support staff’ variety. He’s probably got a Legion’s worth of logistical support. And while there is that old adage about “Novices study tactics, masters study logistics”, logistics alone won’t win a war. On the other hand, at least what few toughs he have will be -marvelously- supplied when they get run over.
I think there’s some confusion about the difference between social awkwardness and being an asshole. Dove is the second, not the first. Dove is an irredeemable, childish shitheel with no obvious redeeming qualities
Oh god, that’s hilarious. Since he was introduced, I’ve always had in the back of my mind the nagging worry that he might actually be at least a little of the bigshot he so obviously thinks he is. But in reality, he barely breaks two grand of followers. That’s just pathetic, by just about any standard. He really is the blowhard we all thought he was.
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Trevor’s response to Dove’s comment is much the same as my own
Admittedly, he was right about the debauchery. But really, did he expect the other players to just sit on in awe whilst the match played out?
…. Actually, knowing Dove, he probably did.
Anyway, Brian, nice job. This is a good ending, I think. Lightening the tone a bit. Whether it was intentional or not, I think you handled it well by having things play out as they did. While Dove was being a prick, it was unclear whether he actually cheated, though heavily implied. I can’t imagine Dead Iron failed SHEERLY due to his influence, and while I admit I am unfamiliar with precise tournament rules, I imagine that things got out of hand a bit.
People are not shining, perfect beacons or dirty scum, Even the good guys fail as people, and the opposition may have a valid leg to stand on. While many could argue that this may just be coincidence, either way…
Nice job. I look forward to future arcs.
Thanks! I do my best to show that everyone has their ups and downs and that most situations can be seen from a few different angles.
Thanks so much for reading and I hope to keep things entertaining for as long as I am publishing this comic.
In a few tournaments you actually have to purchase your dice right there for use. This is primarily done for the express purpose of keeping people from cheating. However if you have suspect dice as in this case, then the person suspected of using them rants as Dove did the word is spread and Dove would be banned form every reputable establishment around. I do really wonder exactly what would happen if Dove became known as a cheater, or outlawed player. Also in this case you could bring in the whole santa angle as well, that could bring in a totally new dimension on punishment since he does figure into your storyline.
If Trevor did that move on purpose, then he truly is a fantastic gamer.
mess with santa’s friends, and you get P-ho-ho-howned
Hover-Text: It’s Dove getting the specific number that makes me laugh.
Did he look it up or did he have it memorized?
I can see him being the type to have it memorized but checks it constantly for the ego boost every time it goes up.
I like to think he checked it at just this moment just to make sure he was 100% correct.
*rolls eyes*
Hilarious.
And that foot… is me!
Dove’s legion vs a Legion of True Battle Scarred Gamers.
I hope that last panel lands on Dove and not the carpet.
He has more followers than I do? … *flips table!* … *storms out!*
Yes Dove, because twitter is such a force for justice in the world.
Honestly, my first reaction was “Dove goes on 4chan?”
Then I remembered what 4chan does to tightwad turd buckets with sticks up their hindquarters. Dove wouldn’t last 15 minutes on /tg/.
… Makes them king?
King of Getting Reamed. We’d probably just spam his phone with a non-stop bombardment of the vilest homosexual pornography Germany has to offer.
His face isn’t legion, but his chins may be
Dove has 2,305 followers on Twitter? Wait a minute… 2+3+0+5=8. 2,305 is also a four-digit number. 8×4=32. 32… Three and two… Three as in the number of players that were killed at the start of the final round, two as in Dove and Dallas being the only players left at the end… Dove and Dallas… D&D.
Oh my God. It’s all so obvious now.
Dove and Dallas will eventually meet to reconcile their differences, open up to one another, and engage in a torrid affair that will result in the creation of the next hit RPG, a product of both Dallas’s creative mind and Dove’s technical/tactical expertise.
Dallas and Dove. D&D. d20 Monkey’s next OTP. Search your hearts, you know it to be true.
I just realized my math was flawed. Disregard the above. Please don’t hit me.
Hold up, we can fix the math (with a few more steps!)
So, you dropped the 2 in the initial addition, so it’s really 10. 10 can be interpreted at 2 in binary, and 10-2 is 8. Okay, your math is now sound.
Damn, that took way less time than I thought it would.
Thank you for salvaging the future of d20 Monkey’s next OTP. Next time I’ll leave the madness math to people that aren’t sleep-deprived and half-drunk.
Faulty math is an essential part of… of whatever you would call this sort of thing 😉
I call it “what happens when my poor dumb brain-meats are running off two hours of sleep and four ounces of Wild Turkey 101.”
You call that “numerology”, and it’s hilarious up until the point people start taking that shit seriously.
Hey . . . . the number 3 mentioned a couple of times. . . . Half-Life 3 CONFIRMED!!!!!
DAMMIT GOKU
way to kill the tension
I’m a monster. A MONNNNNNNSTER!
I so hope Trevor threw up on Dove. I really really do.
Reflex save check!
Followed shortly by a Fortitude save to avoid chain-puking.
Ya know Dove, I think its at this point one would bust out a Shatner quote on you and said “Get a life, you fuckin’ nerd”
Sorry Dove, but I haven’t been physically able to take the concept of legion seriously ever since I read John Dies at the End.
“We are known as Shitload. Cause there’s a shitload of us in here!”
I now NEED to read this book.
Yes. You do. Why don’t you have it yet?
And to be totally honest, I think Shitload was kind of terrifying.
Awesome comic xD makes me want to try my hand at D&D, it sounds really fun.
ok with him throwing up there should of been a small speech bubble on the side of Dove getting hit with it, like a ” Oh God” or somthing
This is a nice point of the differences between the players. Dove lost, and decided to throw a hissy fit, insult the person who won, the GM, and try and make it out that it was his fault.
Dallas, in the comic before last, was happy to have one, not entirely thrilled she won with Dove’s dice, and took what he’d said to heart, thoroughly depressing her.
Sam’s trying to will Dove’s head to catch fire.
And these two lost, but they had fun, lost fair and square, and went off to chat and finish off the alcohol they’d probably had planned for specific moments that never came.
Kirby, now I have the vision of Dove’s head exploding like the scene in Scanners! Awesome!
Sounds like Dove came straight out of a chicktract comic. Getting a little too attached to his characters. I try and keep mine alive but I’ve also got little attachment and if they die, they die.
Still loving the witch class so watching Dove get his just desserts for bad gaming etiquette gives me happy tingles. 😀
P.S. Only 2305 followers? That’s nothing compared to things like Wipeout Homophobia and Lizzy the Lezzy (she just hit a million followers on FB by the way) and those are also run by a single person or a handful of people.
It’s good to know one can always count on one’s idiot, drunken friends to help out. Sort of.
Either many d20-tinis were quaffed in rapid succession to make this happen, or Trevor and Jeanie are cheap drunks.
Either way, looks like Sam’s got some floor to clean (hope it’s not carpet).
Sam may have won the battle, but Dove may still win the war. If he has a lot of local followers and sets up a boycott of the store, things could get ugly for Sam, business-wise. That said, if Sam goes all in proclaiming far and wide that his store is a safe space, business might actually do better.
It’s going to get interesting.
Anyone who’s a loyal “follower” of Dove is likely to be someone I wouldn’t enjoy playing with.
Keep in mind that sometimes “followers” specifically follow people they can’t stand because they want to see what they say next. So they can feel righteous anger.
It’s half the reason Howard Stern got so popular…
As someone who *loves* that his local shops both have “sanctuary” rules in place, including having a couple beds in case people need them (cots, but they beat the streets while we were waiting on our approval for our new apt. a few years back, as new renters), I can confirm that people flock to stores that endeavor to take care of their own, especially various minorities, women, LGBT, and other people who feel marginalized in general life.
I’d *love* to see that be how this ends up going… bonus points of Dove winds up doing something stupid and getting arrested for his trouble.
I…I can’t tell who’s actually being MORE childish here, whether it’s Sam with his “take your ball and go home!” tactic, complete with temper tantrum, or Dove with his “I’m telling Twitter on you!” approach.
Sam did warn everyone that any more personal ooc attacks would get them kicked out of the store. He’s just following through on that.
Game’s over, technically. Dallas won. Now that Dove protests the outcome rules that should have applied to the game can be pulled up?
Hmm. I don’t see why any ruling regarding player behavior would stop applying at the end of the session, at least for that particular event.
And while the game itself might be over, the event isn’t. The prize hasn’t been given out, and Dallas did note that the die she rolled at the end wasn’t hers – she might want (or even demand) to re-roll.
Now, if Dove had left and then started spreading his crap around and then gotten banned, it’d be another matter. As is, he’s still a guest of the Dragon’s Den, and hasn’t been a very good one – he’s insulted, attacked, or made accusations against not only the other players, but the host as well. Honestly, the fact that Sam simply told Dove to leave shows remarkable restraint, I think.
The game can hardly be continuing when one of the players has been ejected. That’s disqualification by most accounts.
Now you’re just being pedantic for the sake of being pedantic.
When you are in a place of business, for whatever reasons, you follow the rules of whoever runs the place.
Dove has only just now left the building, and being a gaming shop, his toxic attitude is not conducive to a friendly atmosphere.
Dallas accidentally rolled Dove’s d20, and pointed it out with the most likely intention of saying that she would like to roll with her own d20 and not his. Dove then proceeded to explode under the assumption that she’s now accusing him of cheating when Dallas had made no intent to do so clear, and Dove has already been warned that any more OOC attacks on anyone would warrant immediate expulsion from the event and the store.
I disagree that either player is behaving childishly.
From Dove’s perspective, he has just been treated unfairly at – and given the boot from – an event which he paid good money to take part in, at the hands of the event organiser/referee, no less.
Public complaints about vendors and service providers are a legitimate way of either getting them to change their ways, or punishing them by hurting their bottom line if they don’t. (*)
That being the case, it’s IMO entirely appropriate for Dove to take to his Twitter feed to argue against the Dragon’s Den – at least, it is from where he stands.
For his part, from Sam’s perspective, Dove is a noxious presence in the Dragon’s Den: he’s known to be misogynist, homophobic, and racist.
Anyone alienated by that kind of behaviour (which would be the vast majority of women, LGBTQ, and non-white gamers, as well as white heteronormative men who sympathise with them) might well re-consider patronising the Dragon’s Den if it’s the sort of establishment that lets the Phillip Doves of the world openly voice their bigotry in its walls. Chances are there are more of them floating around than Doves and Dove sympathisers. (A reasonable conclusion, given the commentary on the Dungeon Run posts over the last two weeks.)
Dragon’s Den is not obliged to provide a soapbox to Dove, so apart from any social consideration Sam might have for having just been personally accused of colluding with Dallas et al to defeat Dove, giving Dove the boot is a rational decision.
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(*) There was a columnist in my newspaper who would publish complaints about businesses whose intervention often resulted in remedial action taken in favour of the complainant.
“From Dove’s perspective, he has just been treated unfairly at – and given the boot from – an event which he paid good money to take part in, at the hands of the event organiser/referee, no less.
Public complaints about vendors and service providers are a legitimate way of either getting them to change their ways, or punishing them by hurting their bottom line if they don’t.”
Except that Dove was warned by the referee that if he continued with his behavior, he would be ejected from the event. He was fairly warned, he ignored that warning, and the referee carried out the promised result.
When he was warned, and ejected for directly violating that warning, to then go and complain about the venue for being “treated unfairly” is completely childish; it is akin to throwing a temper tantrum because he didn’t get his way. He may not see it that way, but that doesn’t change what it is.
I wish more businesses would fire toxic customers.
I wonder how many of Dove’s followers follow him because they find his ranting hilarious, how many just follow him to understand the “enemy” and how many actually are interested in what he has to say. And I also wonder how many are actually local enough to matter.
Don’t forget the ones that follow him because they get paid to. Dove seems like the kind of person who would actually pay people (or at least promise to pay people) to follow his Twitter.
I think Sam actually has enough evidence for a restraining order against Dove… He brings in strong arm thugs to the store on a regular basis (at one point leading to an assault case involving the police) so he does pose a threat to the safety of the patrons of the store. Can someone either back me up or refute me on the law on this.
Full disclosure: I’m not the most reliable source. I’ve never had to file a restraining order, and I’ve only ever looked it up once in the distant past.
Wait, I’m confused: When did the drinking start? Was that off screen, or am I just not finding the strip where they opened the bar…?
Technically they’ve had the drinks since they were grouped into the same group, before Tamina dropped out. But they’ve been ‘off camera’ for a bit so they’ve probably been drowning their defeat in Martinis.
The way they’re staggering, to say they were ‘drowning’ is like saying the Marianas Trench is a little on the deep side…
You know, I imagine Dove sounds like Comic Book Shop guy from The Simpsons. (Though an order of magnitiude less warm and fuzzy.)
So it’s not just me then?? Phew!
It was a couple of strips after Dove’s first appearance in Dungeon Run that I realised that I’d been hearing all his dialogue in Comic Book Guy’s voice….
Hey! Now I have a voice for reading all his dialogue! Thank you so much!!! 😀
Hey. Hey. Be nice to Comic Book Store Guy. He’s actually a decent guy and his elitism is more frustration with the fact that not everyone knows what they should about comics. Or that they don’t know the right things about comics. Either way…he’s at least nice enough to not view people as simple score cards.
hmm..you know, im hoping that dove DOES try to get some publicity out of it, and come to find out, (like some suspect) that sam has recorded EVERYTHING that happened at this event (including from his perspective) and INCLUDING all of Dove’s tirades at the table. especially when it counters his claims of ‘unfair treatment’ and ‘cronyism’ as well as Sam making good on his threat to have Dove barred from gaming in general, with video proof at his beck and call.
oh, and im also citing this as a former judge/battlemaster for Wizkids, i used to have folks complain about my venue because we had to be done by a certain time (because of weekly magic tournements and lan partys), to which i would remind my players that Mechwarrior didnt bring in anywhere near the sales magic did (30-45 bucks a week compared to 300-350 a NIGHT for magic) and if i was such a terrible judge, then why was it that they had to use MY venue to win the LE figures that they kept losing out on at every other venue. they realized then that id caught on to their plan – which is why i saw ONLY the same four players weekly, 6 if they brought family members. and then they expected me to hand over figures that OTHER folks had won to them for ‘safekeeping’
needless to say, my name got smeared for being an ‘unfair’ judge. to which i responded by discussing releasing video kept by the host venue, very quickly those lobbying claims against me, recanted saying that they were being pressured by ‘outside sources’ they refused to name.
oh, and i forgot to mention that it was ONLY my MW crew that had any problems with how i ran events, my Heroclix group loved me, never had a problem with me, and on a couple of occasions even ran the event when i couldnt make it, settling on rules disputes with dice rolls, and saving round results for me when i came in to pick them up for entry. when i gave up events for my new job at the time, they were sorry to see me go, and my host asked if i was interesting in becoming his magic judge in time. so obviously i wasnt doing that bad if the store wanted me to judge his primary breadwinner.
Dove, get some fucking perspective man. 2305 followers doesn’t make you a god who gets to decide what succeeds and what fails, it makes you a spectacle followed but a couple of trainwreck enthusiasts who are hoping to see you make a public spectacle of yourself when you inevitably THINK you are a god owed life and servitude and realize you aren’t.
“We are Legion!” ? *snerk*
2,306 people do not make a Legion. Heck, it’s barely half the size of a proper Legion. And when you account for the “quality” of the “troops” Dove could possibly muster, (I doubt everyone who follows him agree with his rhetoric as I know a lot of folks who follow idiots on social media for laughs), he wouldn’t even have a Cohort.
I really hope that someone tells him where he can put his 4.5 milliwheatons.
dammit google why can’t you calculate this for me? https://www.google.com/#q=2306+followers+in+milliwheatons
Awesome Dork Tower reference.
In case anyone else wants to try to convert his followers into the “Official” milliwheatons, here is the “conversion table”
http://www.dorktower.com/2009/05/21/dork-tower-may-21-2009-the-milliwheaton/
For the record, 4.612. I just think google should understand the units. : P
And let’s not forget that most of Dove’s cohort would be more of the ‘support staff’ variety. He’s probably got a Legion’s worth of logistical support. And while there is that old adage about “Novices study tactics, masters study logistics”, logistics alone won’t win a war. On the other hand, at least what few toughs he have will be -marvelously- supplied when they get run over.
whenever i read Dove’s dialog i just hear the comic store guy from simpsons
I don’t understand why some people are trying to see “both sides” of this. It’s like trying to empathize with a Klansman.
I think there’s some confusion about the difference between social awkwardness and being an asshole. Dove is the second, not the first. Dove is an irredeemable, childish shitheel with no obvious redeeming qualities
He’s fun to laugh at.
Oh god I’m terrible as a human.
no. your good as a human. your bad as a hyper compassionate human.
Oh god, that’s hilarious. Since he was introduced, I’ve always had in the back of my mind the nagging worry that he might actually be at least a little of the bigshot he so obviously thinks he is. But in reality, he barely breaks two grand of followers. That’s just pathetic, by just about any standard. He really is the blowhard we all thought he was.