Dungeon Run: Callouts and Swear Words
Chapter: Comics, Season Five
SHE WHO HATH INVOKED THE NAME OF BRETT TUCKER!
Shit gets super real from here on, everyone. Let’s hope my art can do it justice.
SHE WHO HATH INVOKED THE NAME OF BRETT TUCKER!
Shit gets super real from here on, everyone. Let’s hope my art can do it justice.
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HOVER-TEXT: On the cutting room floor, her line was FULL BRETT and said Game the fuck on you four-eyed, booger eating, creeper!
Pretty sure invoking Brett’s name gives some sort of attack bonus for 5 rounds 😉
Attack bonus +3, and a +2 bonus for specialization: Craft disturbing mental image.
This story arc is so resonant because everyone knows THAT GUY. So much rage.
So much rage.
So much freaking rage.
I hated the ‘that guy’ in my old group i had a coffee mug made with ‘I Hate Joe’ on it. His name being joe. Was my gaming mug for years
Had a guy who joined our gaming group and actually said to the older of the two ladies in our group “So did you come here with your boyfriend to see what gaming is like?”
3 Points.
1: She was both our games-mistress (her choice of title) and our HOST.
2: She has more collective gaming experience than the rest of us (In her own words “I had a D20 shaped rattle and learned basic addition and subtraction from AD&D”)
3: She was, indeed, the founder of her little group.
He was ejected from the house via the medium of large hairy man-gamers.
I like the cut of your jib, Adam.
Considering how diverse my group is, we do have a “no douchecanoe” rule as well.
Current group is two to four dudes, including myself, and 5 to 7 women.
We ain’t got no time for sexism here.
Why do I get the feeling that one of the other players, like Trevor for example, has been playing possum while all of this is going on and is waiting for an opportunity to act? 🙂
Oh, and you do realize that now you’ll have to at least make a WWBD shirt, because of that. 😉
I would buy that
W.W.B.D. Yeppers
It’s also got to have game the fuck on printed across the back though.
I want a “keep calm and Game the fuck on” shirt
I still say nobody is that lucky with the dice and I live in Vegas……
This is a story though. God determines how the die lands.
I think Evil Bastich is hinting to what I feel. Dove seems to be the type to cheat, if means winning against someone he feels is lesser.
They did say at the beginning of the arc he brought his own “special” dice
One can – by proper positioning of the dice and proper rolling – control where the die will land.
It is near impossible in our real world.
But this is a world with Santa Claus and his Son and Gamemaster ghosts/mentors.
So it is not unlikely that he just has that kind of “evil person” luck. Or that he is that good at rolling.
I mean she killed 3 guys with one arrow earlier. That is not an easy feat either.
Or it might of been her Natural 20 special move. Which would mean one roll of twenty for her. Which isn’t so rare. The special moves seem to lean towards taking out more than one enemy as far as I can recall.
Either way, she rolled great when she needed to narratively. Her “I am woman, hear me roar” moment wouldn’t have looked so hot if all she’d done was give one of them a headache, now would it?
I would not be surprised at this point if the dies are loaded.
It is certainly possible to control 6d’s, hence the reason that all dice games in Vegas require that you bounce dice off of a wall. see Scarne on Cards by John Scarne
Dove called Dallas a teenage girl, and it occured to me that we really don’t know how old she is. She appears younger than the rest of the cast, but is she still in high school or is she an adult?
While no schooling has been mentioned as i remember it, she lives in a big house(mansion probably), and has a butler. So she ether comes from money or made it all off of her published games. She could have graduated early since she appears to be a bit smarter then everyone else.
As for her age, i would guess around 14-16, no older then 17 at the latest. But that only applies if everyone has aged since the comic started, cause of the 3 Christmas arcs we’ve seen so far.
I’m fairly certain her age was confirmed to be 16 shortly after her first appearance.
Dallas is a teenager. She is a game design prodigy that could not get her foot in the door based on age and (sadly) gender, so with Larry’s help she created the Dallas Noble persona and worked her way in. The details of how Larry helped are a little vague but I will do the flashback story later. It’s relevant.
As for her parents… wait and see.
Oooooo!
I would not mind the action sequences not having any dialogue or text at all. Just scene after scene of Noble dodging attacks from Dove (and/or Tyraxion) and firing arrows into anything that holds still long enough.
Oh shit just got real.
in the words of that anime cat in Saints Row, MURDER TIME FUNTIME
That’s two crits and a 19 for Dove in a row? I call shenanigans! SHENANIGANS!
I agree. Philip seems to have rolled extremely well throughout this dungeon crawl. Could he be using a loaded die?
Im not saying he brought loaded dice… they did say he brought special dice
Meh, I’ve had nights like that, where the dice just seem to come up perfect several times in a row.
Of course, they were usually balanced by the next gaming session where I would rarely roll anything higher than a 3.
A suspicious run of luck our friend Mr. Dove has been having, he’s had two natural twenties and a 19, all at crucial moments recently. Plot-induced luck, or is he just a cheater?
damn, beaten to the punch by 45 minutes…
He hasn’t rolled lower than 19 yet. No one’s that lucky.
I was just thinking that… methinks hes playing with weighted dice!
Oh, I’ve known people who are exactly that lucky. And they are exactly THOSE people.
I used to have that kind of luck, my d6’s would almost always roll a 5 or 6. then I played Axis and allies, where you have to roll low numbers to hit. Oh the horror for the British troops in those games as they couldn’t hit anything.
Studied at the Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy, did they?
Maybe, but no one is that blase about rolling a nineteen under that set of circumstances. And that wasn’t the first time he seemed unsurprised at rolling crits under stressful circumstances.
Indeed, I once played a d20 Modern game in a apocalyptic setting. I rolled about 7 natural 20’s in front of our group after my sports car got destroyed by the rest of the parties Anti end of days armored vehicle. First d20 was a reflex test, to see if I could get up and out of my seat in time to avoid dying in the crash, second was to leap from my car onto their roof, then the rest were to hold onto the vehicle that had been made to prevent things from grabbing on. while they swerved, ect to get me off. 😀
This story has me torn.
Dramatically I really want to see Dove get his arrogance stuffed down his throat. He’s clearly one of the strip’s villains and beyond that he’s just a prick. So from a dramatic flow, and a heroes-feel-good moment I want him to lose. More than that I want to see that he’s somehow cheating (weighted dice, convenient math error, etc…), because more than just losing I want him to never have deserved to win in the first place.
On the other hand, real life frequently doesn’t work that way. I know plenty of gamers who are that good. They know how to build their advantage, and they just seem to be able roll well (or know how to arrange it so that they only need to roll average). They aren’t always an insufferable jackass like Dove, but usually if they are that good, that competitive, they are also usually that much of an ass.
Either way I’m looking forward to seeing how this plays out.
BRING THE NOISE
Bring on the funk?
Oh you backstabbing fat fuck.
I love honest reactions to characters. Seriously, this made me smile.
Ugh, I can just hear the sneer in his voice when he says “teenage girl”. Condescending piece of shit.
Gah, he looks so bored with his steak of godly rolls.
“Oh, look at that, another one-shot on a god *yawn*”
“Hmm, I guess I destroy the planet with my slipper *falls asleep*”
“*sneeze* well, there goes the fire plane”
One crit is lucky, two is impressive, three starts to feel off, anything above that pretty much demands checking out the dice. The 19 showing up is the only thing keeping me from flat out believing the die’s weighted, as 20 & 19 are nearly opposite on a d20 (likeI had to tell anyone here that)
Huh, just started rolling a d20, took a dozen rolls to get a 20, and the next roll was another 20. Creepy.
Unless it’s a spindown die, then the 19 and 20 are right next to each other.
Huh, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of such a thing. I figured the standard “opposite sides = total sides +1” was the only way one could get dice, but now I know.
We used regular d20’s when tracking health, which made finding the right numbers take a bit longer, but the dice were multi-purpose at that point, so it was all good.
Spindown dice are usually used for games like Magic: the Gathering to keep track of life points. You set the die on the table with your current life total displayed on top. Spindowns are handy for this as you are frequently changing the number by a point or two, and it’s much easier to just rotate the die a little bit than to search all over a standard d20 trying to find the right number.
Of course, most gamers I know frown on the use of a spindown for random rolling. Not that it really makes a huge difference, but it’s the principle of the thing.
That should have been in reply to White Rice’s comment.
I guess rolled a “1” at navigating comment trees.
Actually, if his dice are weighted, like people say, the problem of course is that on most d20’s, the 19 and the 20 are almost on opposite sides. So assuming he used the same die all the time, then at least one of his rolls was made all by ‘himself’.
Assuming it’s the same die. I, and many others, use several different die. The fact he keeps a spreadsheet on his rolls almost guarantees he is the kind that would.
Look at it this way people. For every game winning high roll, there is a an opposite and equally devastating low roll. and by my count Dove’s got at least three of them coming.
While this is true, I’ve noticed that they don’t always come to the same player. For example, I once had a priest wading his way through a horde of very minor demons and zombies with a holy warhammer. Great Demon General pops up, priest rolls a natural 20 to strike, natural 20 on effects chart. Demon General rolls a natural 1 to dodge, natural 1 to roll with it. Priest goes running through the ranks, jumps up, splits the general from cap to crotch, lands between the halves as they fall and keeps running. First time in that StoryTeller’s history that he ever had a player with one of those “But for me it was Tuesday” moments.
Damit Dove, spindown die are for health tracking, not rolling.
God I used to play with someone who used one, and I had to keep insisting he get an actual d20, he never did.
Now, if Dove had just walked it off all cool without the elitist, misogynist bullshit he would have just been someone pulling an interesting tactic. However, all we get is the same ol’ prick. Hope he gets his comeuppance!
So I’m thinking she drinks what’s left of Carlos’s blood and lets the rage infection give her the strength she needs to shove Tyraxion’s heart inside of and through Dove. She stated she doesn’t care if she goes down so I think at this point she isn’t above taking on a curse.
I don’t think he’s cheating. He may think the system and setting are barely average but I’d think Dove is above taking weighted dice to a table. I kind of hope Steroid McRage lord shows up and tells Dove it’s time to go.
No, he’s not cheating, but he’s also not winning. The goal is to get the heart of Tyraxion and there’s no way he can do that now. In football, the goal is to make touchdowns. If you’re losing, sleeping with the head cheerleader for the opposing team still won’t get you a win.
Even if Dallas goes down, if she takes Dove out first, as far as I can see she wins the Dungeon Run.
Here’s hoping. Go Dallas!
Well, remember the official rules- if everybody dies, victory is determined by proximity to the heart. As long as Dallas kills Dove and then drags her battered and bleeding body an inch past his corpse, she wins.
Am I the only one who remembers Sam threatening to kick Dove out of the game and report his behavior to other event organizers if he continued with the disrespectful behavior he showed in the first panel here? I say Sam corners Dove, where he either has to accept this fate or state that he made that comment in-character, thus allowing Dallas to use her Favored Enemy: Patriarchy bonus. (h/t to DLtheDM from the previous day’s comments for the reminder)
Eh, he’s not being personally denigrating, he’s just generally an ass, and he’s not wrong in saying the rules back him. It’s just his tone that you take issue with, and that’s just who the guy *is*, it seems.
Besides, she seems to be fine to take it and dish it back out, last-panel, so hells yeah, let it ride.
It’s fairly clear his “overly emotional teenage girl” comment is directed at Dallas. While it may not be considered as demeaning as calling someone wench and suggesting they serve you, it is still patronizing and misogynistic. He just once again insulted another player’s intelligence and competence based on gender. Plus it would be clear he once again said something like this with a cool head, he can’t claim it was an emotional outburst. I would think Dove is skating on very thin ice.
Dallas doesn’t go after his gender, weight, or anything personal. The worst thing she calls him is a “cowardly son of a bitch.” If you want to call her on her own misogynistic turn of phrase for implying his mother is a dog, so be it.
“I do not expect an overly emotional teenage girl to fully grasp the tactics of an elite gamer”
1. Yes, by saying Dallas is overly emotional he is directly denigrating her.
2. He directly implies she herself is not an elite gamer and cannot understand the tactics of an elite gamer.
3. By linking the phrase overly emotional to teenage girl, he is perpetuating sexist stereotypes.
4. Said stereotypes are further personally denigrating when applied Dallas (he is not merely saying she is overly emotional, he implies that the fact that she is a teenage girl is cause or contribution to her supposedly being overly emotional).
5. So his implication that she is not, nor can understand the tactics of, an elite gamer is not merely denigrating trash talk: he is saying that as a teenage girl she cannot be, nor understand the tactics of, an elite gamer.
6. By implication, teenage girls are overly emotional and not capable of even understanding elite gaming, let alone be elite gamers.
TL, DR: he’s a sexist douche and has indeed just repeated the kind of crap that Sam pulled him up on (if not quite as extreme).
I like MFLoGrasso’s point: either he spoke as a player, and so should be out, or as a character, and cops to Dallas’ favoured enemy.
So hard to argue with what everyone’s saying about Dove, but a comment above really nailed what annoys be about the character, “Gah, he looks so bored with his streak of godly rolls.”
It’s a bit hard to tell the smug superiority from boredom, but mainly he doesn’t look like he’s having *fun*. Like he’s let his need to be the best (and an ass) at this ruin the point of playing in the first place. What’s the point of winning a gaming competition like this if you weren’t even enjoying it?
Unlike Dove, I can find the enjoyment in nearly getting my character split in two by a falling sentient stalactite creature so long as it furthers the game, and everybody’s having fun with it (it wasn’t a crit, so it didn’t kill him, but he lost most of his HP, and his robe!)
From what we’ve seen, Dove doesn’t seem to enjoy the “game” aspect of games, he enjoys causing others to lose. He’s knows he can’t cause them to lose if he loses, so he plays to win, and to crush all others (because if they can’t survive him, they don’t deserve to play)
Here’s hoping for some good action, followed by Dove thinking he’s got everything in the bag, only for the dice gods to royally crap on him for what would be his coup de grace roll (followed with chained critical failures, because if he can get 3+ crits in a row, he can get 3+ crit failures too)
I am sorry, no one is that lucky. Of the rolls shown in the comic Dove has yet to get a total less than 18. If I were a DM I would be paying close attention to his dice and stats to make sure he wasn’t fudging. I could be wrong, there are guys who are just jerks about playing the game, and min-max to the hilt.
However, I use to game with a guy who would call out what ever number he thought would be most interesting to the story. If he wanted his character to succeed he would call something over 17, and if he wanted to fail (though he rarely did) he would call something under 10.
Dove seems like the kind of guy who is so obsessed with winning he would cheat on die rolls. Even if the game was just for fun and had no rewards attached.
his rolls are like our local shop owners when he rolls to do something to derail the whole quest we’re currently on, “hey i wanna go buy a polar bear, its 2 months forced march from where we are going but dammit i want a polar bear”
Isn’t he supposed to be smart? Why the hell does he think he’s won anything? The goal was to claim the heart, not become the dragon’s bitch. All he’s done is ensure that instead of him + Dallas vs. dragon, it’s Dallas + dragon vs. him! Since, y’know, after killing her he still has to kill the dragon.
No, remember the contingency rules. He needs only to kill her and then die closer to the heart than she did. >8)